“One of the knocks against making music with a laptop is that it gives you too many options: If you can do anything, what’s the point of doing anything? People fetishize limitations a lot in music; there’s this toxic idea that people can only create interesting stuff under limitations.‬ But the approach where you can put together any group of sounds that you want is so much more exciting to me than buying a bunch of specific gear and being like, ‘Let me see what I can make when I put myself in this little box.’ As a person who likes pop music and listens to all kinds of stuff, just thinking about that way of creating bores the shit out of me.”